Posts Tagged ‘FLDS’

More Polygamist News – Breaking News from MSNBC!

May 29, 2008

I have to say that in light of the MSNBC story
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24878696/,
I am just sad.

I wrote a blog post about a week or so ago
https://sugarsprouts.wordpress.com/2008/05/22/comparing-the-polygamist-mormons-flds-church-with-the-amish/ and I was so hoping this wouldn’t happen. But it did. So the shout outs to Texas are reneged. Come on guys. You KNOW this is happening and you know to date, Arizona and Utah have continued to sit on their hands. Why can you do nothing to protect these kids? I just don’t get it.

“Under Texas law, children can be taken from their parents if there’s a danger to their physical safety, an urgent need for protection and if officials made a reasonable effort to keep the children in their homes. The high court agreed with the appellate court that the seizures fell short of that standard.”

The women and young girls who have managed to escape this life, (and given the identically abuse-ridden tales that are told, it is NOT extreme to say they escaped) agree. Young girls are forced into nonconsensual sexual marriages with significantly older men, and when under a certain age (which differs state to state) that is rape. So when did rape stop being abuse? Is it no longer “a danger to their physical safety”? Rape?

And what of the girls from Colorado City Arizona who tried to escape only to be captured by their own fathers, beaten until almost dead, and returned to their “husbands”? Was this not abuse? Is there really no “urgent need for protection” against being beaten and returned to a rapist, dirty old man?

I agree with religious freedom. I tend WAY toward the left in wanting to ascertain that all of our rights as American citizens are protected. Saying it is worth giving up our freedom to stay free doesn’t ring logical in my mind. But this goes well beyond that. I guess if a grown woman, with no outside pressure chooses this life for herself she has that right (although legally she actually doesn’t). But if that right is taken away from a young girl and this lifestyle is imposed upon her, then that my friends IS abuse.

I hear so many people say it is religious freedom and we shouldn’t interfere. But wow are those same people up in arms when they hear of the welfare system abuse, and tax law abuse that goes on. We’re terrified of venturing forth into abuse that disguises itself as religion but let’s make sure we protect the almighty dollar.

I’m sure to some degree these mothers who want their children back truly love them. But it is these same mothers who will willingly give their daughters away as soon as an antique of a church elder decides he wants a new plaything.

I live practically next door to the Colorado City sect. It IS abuse wise Texas citizens. It is abuse in your state, in your back yard. I was hoping Texas could accomplish what Arizona and Utah don’t seem to have the balls to do.

Shame on Texas!

God bless those poor girls.

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Comparing the Polygamist Mormons (FLDS Church) with the Amish?

May 22, 2008

A great big shout out to the Life on the Run blog for it’s heartfelt and informative post of polygamy and plural wives.

I actually live VERY (frightening) near the FLDS community of Colorado City (otherwise known as Short Creek). **** It is not at all unusual to go into town and see one man, five wives, and a multitude of children entering the WalMart together. It is just accepted as the way things are. I have in fact heard people comment that it is no different than venturing into eastern Pennsylvania and seeing the Amish pull up in their buggies.

**** SIDE NOTE: Colorado City is actually two towns – Colorado City, AZ and Hilldale, Utah. Word is, whichever state is hassling them at any given time, they claim to be the OTHER state’s residents. Neither state has done much though, or these problems would have been quelled years ago. The town’s share law enforcement and politicians – they are in essence the same town. People don’t own their homes or land – the FLDS church does. Tick ’em off, you are out on your ear with nothing. Oh, and one way to tick ’em off GOOD is to NOT allow a perverted old man to marry your thirteen year old girl.

Now I grew up near the Amish and this is very, very different. The Amish do not force young girls into servitude as sex slaves. (And yes, call it religion if you like, but when you marry off a thirteen year old girl against her will to a 60 year old man for the purpose of reproducing and satisfying that sick old man’s sex drive, then THAT my friends IS a sex slave). The Amish honor their children.

The Amish also do not believe in multiple wives. Now, if an adult wants to willingly go into a plural marriage, part of me want to say OK. You’re decision honey. And in the case of television like “Big Love”, the women really do seem like they have made that decision freely. But what if you are, as the Life on the Run blog indicates, indoctrinated into this way of thinking? Is an 18 or 20 year old who has been told her whole life that God will only love her and allow her into heaven IF she is a plural wife any different than a thirteen year old?

Back to Amish briefly. At around 18, before being baptized, and most likely married, young Amish adults are allowed a time of Rumspringa (German for “running around” or “jumping around”). During this time a young adult may even leave the family fold for a short time to experience the world. But most Amish return home. They are not attempting to escape in the dead of night only to be captured and beaten and tortured before being returned to their 60 year old husband/captor (where they are likely beaten and raped again). Most Amish return home because of the love and tranquility they feel there. Amish subscribe to something referred to as Gelassenheit or humility, calmness and serenity.

So don’t go comparing the Amish to the FLDS polygamist sect of Colorado City and Texas. I have experienced watching them firsthand in public and in their communities. Yes, I have ventured into the community of Colorado City/Hilldale on occasion if I happen to be driving through and need gas, or a candy bar (no Diet Coke though – and heavens, NO beer!). It is like being in the middle of a macabre Stepford Wives horror film – the children (girls in their long dresses and boys dressed in crisp shirts and ties to play outside – not really a commentary on style but more a visual for you who have never been there) step back in unison as an unfamiliar car trolls by. Mothers warily enter their yards and gather their children near. They seem the protective and loving parents. And in some ways I’m sure they are. But can a Dad who has fathered forty children (not an exaggeration for an “elder”) even know all of his children’s names? Does he even care? And those same little girls playing in the yards will soon be auctioned off like cattle to the oldest man with the largest brothel. It is heart-breaking to watch.

And let us not forget the boys, Many of them, unless they are pegged to be something greater and therefore, cherished and protected, are set out. They are seen as a threat to the old men in their quests for younger and more beautiful wives. So they too are victims of this cult.

And don’t be fooled. This offshoot of the mainstream LDS church IS a cult. Any organization that attempts mind control, body control, financial control of its members is nothing else. And when you throw in a bit of sexual deviation and out-and-out rape of young girls, well, there you go. You have yourself an American born cult.

THANK YOU again to Life on the Run blog for bringing this issue forward today!

Also, kudos to Texas for at least in the present, appearing to have the balls to do what Arizona and Utah have been unwilling to do for decades.

Also, check out http://gosw.about.com/od/southwesthistory/a/polygamy.htm

_________________________ Art imitates life, and life imitates art.

What I see every day influences what I create, so writing this blog and creating my designs are natural extensions of who I am.

If you are interested in viewing my designs, primarily for kids but also some cool stuff for adults and also doggies (who we all know are integral parts of all families) check them out at:
http://www.cafepress.com/sugarsprouts

See you around the mountains and canyons of northern AZ!

“If you don’t laugh at life, it sneaks up and bites you in the ass!”